softwareguy
07-06 05:54 PM
And how does it not apply to AOS.
For Consular processing people have to plan trips and get medical and all that.
Why doesnt the same analogy apply to AOS. - Please explain...:confused:
For Consular processing people have to plan trips and get medical and all that.
Why doesnt the same analogy apply to AOS. - Please explain...:confused:
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04-30 03:28 PM
Testimony is going in full mood/swing..questions by questions...to uscis/dos..
GOTGC
07-24 08:08 AM
March 2003!!??u were current in June.
If u applied 485 in June 07 u might have already been alloted a visa number...Call uscis to find out...A nicer IO may give u some details abt your case
Priti..
How can he get a visa number alloted(I suppose you mean he could have got approval)..NO WAY they can approve a person who applies in June.. Do you think they can approve 485 without Biometrics.NameCheck,Security checks etc.. Please do not provide wrong info and rise false hopes in people who already suffered a lot
If u applied 485 in June 07 u might have already been alloted a visa number...Call uscis to find out...A nicer IO may give u some details abt your case
Priti..
How can he get a visa number alloted(I suppose you mean he could have got approval)..NO WAY they can approve a person who applies in June.. Do you think they can approve 485 without Biometrics.NameCheck,Security checks etc.. Please do not provide wrong info and rise false hopes in people who already suffered a lot
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nixstor
07-06 10:31 AM
Nixstor,
AILA's publication itself said that checks were not done... Its evident on also. If you refrain from spicing up things its never going to come up in media. Who cares if 500 mm immigrants are backlogged ?
You are saying that authorities will take retaliatory measures for saying something that really bad happened. Then dont even talk about lawsuit etc... Do you think a lawsuit aginst USCIS/DOS is going to please them very much ???
Take either Boat1 or Boat2 -- Please do not sail keeping your foot in two boats. I apologize if i sound aggressive but it is what it is. Doing a work
in weekend of 48 hours (consuming 25000 visas) which takes even more
than 48 days definitely involves bypassing CRITICAL checks !!
Truth is a truth - neither you or me or anyone can alter it.
Thanks!
Let me tell you one thing for clearly. I know that this is a hot button issue in both agencies right now. If you read Zoe Lofgren's letter, both secretaries have to answer her questions and it will be a press release as well. We need to make it a public story, but NOT by digging our own hole. Boat 1 is better for me, If I know for sure that Boat 2 will drown me in the ocean. In the heat of the moment, you might not see the consequences of the security lapse rumors.
The established truth so far is
USCIS used all the numbers ahead of time and shut the door on highly skilled immigrants on day one
DOS revised its July 2007 visa bulletin on day one 1, which has not happened in a long time or never.
The wind mill stories are
Some law firms started hallucinating that the security checks were never done. They themselves do not know for sure. If you go and look towards the end of the blog post where it originated, he asks for confirmation instead of telling his resources.
Do you know that there were people who got their GC in 45-60 days last year? I know some personally. The security check and how they say its done or not done has always been esoteric to us. Last year, some one put up the blog of a Taiwanese guy who got labor,140,485 approved in a span of 5-6 months. How can this happen? AFAIK, all the people who got their GC's have PD's like 2003 and 2004. Please do not sling mud, when we do not know for sure, esp when the issues are of paramount importance like security. I will leave things for your discretion.
AILA's publication itself said that checks were not done... Its evident on also. If you refrain from spicing up things its never going to come up in media. Who cares if 500 mm immigrants are backlogged ?
You are saying that authorities will take retaliatory measures for saying something that really bad happened. Then dont even talk about lawsuit etc... Do you think a lawsuit aginst USCIS/DOS is going to please them very much ???
Take either Boat1 or Boat2 -- Please do not sail keeping your foot in two boats. I apologize if i sound aggressive but it is what it is. Doing a work
in weekend of 48 hours (consuming 25000 visas) which takes even more
than 48 days definitely involves bypassing CRITICAL checks !!
Truth is a truth - neither you or me or anyone can alter it.
Thanks!
Let me tell you one thing for clearly. I know that this is a hot button issue in both agencies right now. If you read Zoe Lofgren's letter, both secretaries have to answer her questions and it will be a press release as well. We need to make it a public story, but NOT by digging our own hole. Boat 1 is better for me, If I know for sure that Boat 2 will drown me in the ocean. In the heat of the moment, you might not see the consequences of the security lapse rumors.
The established truth so far is
USCIS used all the numbers ahead of time and shut the door on highly skilled immigrants on day one
DOS revised its July 2007 visa bulletin on day one 1, which has not happened in a long time or never.
The wind mill stories are
Some law firms started hallucinating that the security checks were never done. They themselves do not know for sure. If you go and look towards the end of the blog post where it originated, he asks for confirmation instead of telling his resources.
Do you know that there were people who got their GC in 45-60 days last year? I know some personally. The security check and how they say its done or not done has always been esoteric to us. Last year, some one put up the blog of a Taiwanese guy who got labor,140,485 approved in a span of 5-6 months. How can this happen? AFAIK, all the people who got their GC's have PD's like 2003 and 2004. Please do not sling mud, when we do not know for sure, esp when the issues are of paramount importance like security. I will leave things for your discretion.
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clemsonite
09-02 01:01 PM
Well, you could still try and apply in EB2, as you mentioned earning a master's degree.
I am one of those who came in 98 on F1 and went through 3 different GC processes (all EB2) to finally see the CPO email now. No regrets though, as I changed employers a few times (resulting in dropping the first two GC processes) to achieve growth (higher salaries, actually).
All the best to everyone waiting.
Thanks all.
I'm in my mid thirties now. I came as a teen, fifteen.
So I wonder....should the dream act come through....could it work in my favor too lol? I came through no choice of my own (though legally) with my parents....
And do i get a GC for beating everyone on here :)
j/k.
I am one of those who came in 98 on F1 and went through 3 different GC processes (all EB2) to finally see the CPO email now. No regrets though, as I changed employers a few times (resulting in dropping the first two GC processes) to achieve growth (higher salaries, actually).
All the best to everyone waiting.
Thanks all.
I'm in my mid thirties now. I came as a teen, fifteen.
So I wonder....should the dream act come through....could it work in my favor too lol? I came through no choice of my own (though legally) with my parents....
And do i get a GC for beating everyone on here :)
j/k.
DDLMODES
07-06 08:48 AM
there was a serious security lapse in issuing green cards, FBI Security check was bypassed, the USCIS might have given the visa to even terrorists.
Guys, don't put this spin on the story. Until proven otherwise YOU ARE one of those potential people that can be considered a threat.
Besides, we have no ideea if the security checks were bypassed.
Guys, don't put this spin on the story. Until proven otherwise YOU ARE one of those potential people that can be considered a threat.
Besides, we have no ideea if the security checks were bypassed.
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apb
09-12 02:37 PM
This is specifically for those people who have never contributed but feel like contributing but for some reason hesitate to pull the trigger. For all such people who start a monthly contribution of $50 and promise (not to me or anyone else but themselves) to keep contributing for at least the next 6 months, I am going to make a one-time contribution of $50 for every such person. I have a modest upper limit, which I will disclose after the first 10 new contributors.
So people, Sept 18th is approaching fast and IV needs your contribution. Now is the time.
The only requirement is that the member has never contributed before and starts a $50 dollar recurring contribution. For every two new contributors I will make a $100 one-time contribution. Moderators may verify my contribution.
This is great thinking and wonderful initiative. It is a lesson how we all can be creative and help others motivate. It reminds of a story. There were two teams US and Japanese. They each were divided into two groups each and made to stand facing each other. There was a imaginary line drawn and the goal of each team is to convince their team members on the other side of the line to cross over. US Team were never able to convince their team members to cross over and move to other side.
Japanese simply said to their team members on other side.. If you cross over we will also cross over.. and they won. As simple as it may sound here is a classic example shown by Milind. You rock Milind.
And you make me feel proud in being associated with you in this struggle for our cause.
I am also in the drive for funds with my indifferent colleagues. See you in DC.
So people, Sept 18th is approaching fast and IV needs your contribution. Now is the time.
The only requirement is that the member has never contributed before and starts a $50 dollar recurring contribution. For every two new contributors I will make a $100 one-time contribution. Moderators may verify my contribution.
This is great thinking and wonderful initiative. It is a lesson how we all can be creative and help others motivate. It reminds of a story. There were two teams US and Japanese. They each were divided into two groups each and made to stand facing each other. There was a imaginary line drawn and the goal of each team is to convince their team members on the other side of the line to cross over. US Team were never able to convince their team members to cross over and move to other side.
Japanese simply said to their team members on other side.. If you cross over we will also cross over.. and they won. As simple as it may sound here is a classic example shown by Milind. You rock Milind.
And you make me feel proud in being associated with you in this struggle for our cause.
I am also in the drive for funds with my indifferent colleagues. See you in DC.
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08-26 02:51 PM
Can you substantiate how he is suffering ? I also have a home loan through ICICI Bank and have been very happy so far. They have the best service amongst all banks in the country, and so they charge for it. Ultimately its a trade-off - you can decide whether you want to go cheap or require good service.
As some posters pointed out earlier, its extremely easy to apply for a home loan through ICICI Bank sitting here in the US. I dont know of any other Indian banks that would provide you the same level of convenience.
Check their interest rate and their service fee. I don't have to say anything anymore.
By the way what kind of convenience you received from ICICI bank? Recently i asked for a password change. You know the procedure for changing the password? I don't want to waste a page here. You yourself go and verify.
Apart from that you have to pay close to 400 rupees for every password change. Tell me if i am wrong. I challenge you.
As some posters pointed out earlier, its extremely easy to apply for a home loan through ICICI Bank sitting here in the US. I dont know of any other Indian banks that would provide you the same level of convenience.
Check their interest rate and their service fee. I don't have to say anything anymore.
By the way what kind of convenience you received from ICICI bank? Recently i asked for a password change. You know the procedure for changing the password? I don't want to waste a page here. You yourself go and verify.
Apart from that you have to pay close to 400 rupees for every password change. Tell me if i am wrong. I challenge you.
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While we work in different directions for the same goal, please write to Zoe and others that we can help reduce the housing crisis, create jobs.
Please find addresses at the bottom who to send.
Sub: Legal immigrants Quota Problem: Employment based EB2, EB3
Dear XXXX,
This is to once again thank you for your continuous efforts in making things move in the legal immigration front.
We would request you to bring HR 5882 to the table and hence help people waiting for so long get immediate relief. We think this is the best time to do it as there are so many waiting in long queues for so long and are unable to buy houses though they are at rock bottom prices now, or change companies as some of us would also like to, and start new companies and jobs. There are very much needed in this time of economic crisis. Applicants in EB3 and EB2 Employment based greencard category are severly backlogged.
The problem is mainly due to country based quotas and wastage of many greencards due to administrative delays over the years, as you know. This can easily be fixed with a simple administrative action and need not need to be done as part of the bigger comprehensive immigration bill. We too need a change.
Below are some statistics and details of the problem, just in case you missed a point.
1. High technology H1-B visas allowed into US = 85,000 H1B per year.
2. H1B quota limit per country = None, quota limits.
3. Greencard eligible candidates = All H1B holders
4. Total Employment Greencards = 145,000 per year.
5. Quota limits for greencards = 7% per country and each family member is counted as 1 visa.
6. H1 holders from India = 30,000 to 40,000 per year.
7. Greencards available for India by quota limits = 2000 � 3000 per year.
8. People waiting in Queues = 37,000 � 38,000 per year.
9. Estimated wait = 10- 15 years per life.
10. Estimated loss of productivity = unlimited.
11. Loss of health and health related issues due to these worries = incalculable.
Consequences:
1. EB3 Employment based category from India is severely backlogged,
2. Number of applicants in Queues waiting to buy house = 300,000
3. Number of applicants in Queues buying a house now = 0.
4. Money spent by applicants on rent per year = $6 billion
5. Number of applicants having Citizen children born in US = 80%
6. Number of applicants unable to start own companies(as they are tied to employer all the time due to greencard sponsorship)
= 30-40%
7. Applicants disappointed and leaving US = 10-15%
8. Applicants planning to come back after retirement who take with them US Citizens who will sponsor them = everybody who is leaving US right now with Citizen kids
9. Burden on social security and healthcare by applicants in point 7 = billions of dollars.
10. Severe pain for everyone wasting time on worries and uncertainity.
11. Many people thinking of returning back, very disappointed.
Solution
Please provide immediate relief. We are still holding our bags in hands even after 5-10 years of playing it by law after applying for greencards. Please respect liberty and freedom and let that happen to legal applicants.
1. Please remove country quotas for greencards immediately to make waiting less for legal employer based EB2/EB3 applicants from India in long queues ALREADY in US for years.
2. This needs No new jobs or Visas. It�s just a simple fix to help bring joy to some legal immigrants and give them freedom to contribute more.
3. Please provide greencards for any legal employment based applicant who lived in US for atleast 5 years and is waiting for more than 5 years and paid taxes and live like a good American Citizen.
4. Please provide Citizenship for anyone who lived in US for 10 years and played by the rules all the time and paid taxes.
5. This will help people buy houses that are so cheap now which will pump in $40 billion even if 50% people buy houses.
6. Construction jobs increase as people start buying houses.
7. Manufacturing and auto industry improves as people start buying cars again due to renewed confidence. Else they continue to adjust with their old cars for now.
8. A fee of $1000-$3000 can be applied for premium processing which can generate $1.5 billion instantly.
9. Stop the distribution of 50000 diversity greencards lottery per year immediately. This is bad in the current times, when people are waiting in legal queues for ever.
10. Issue greencards immediately to anyone who did PhD in US and to Masters Students.. They will be more productive if you help here.
11. Please don�t wait for CIR to have these. This is a small admin fix, no new visas or jobs.
Please let us feel respected for playing by the rules. It will come back to the American people in full gratitude in the form of jobs and renewed vigor.
WE TOO NEED A CHANGE NOW.
A positive action in this regard will be very highly appreciated.
God Bless America!
Thank you very much for your kind attention,
XXXXX,
Category : Employment based EB3 greencard category from India.
Priority Date : xx/xx/xxxx
To President its on change.gov site under Agenda-->Immigration.
Zoe' Lofgren's addresses are:
Priority Date : xx/xx/xxxx
District Office
635 North 1st Street, Suite B
San Jose, CA 95112
Telephone (408) 271-8700
Washington, D.C. Office
102 Cannon HOB
Washington, D.C. 20515
Telephone (202) 225-3072
Please find addresses at the bottom who to send.
Sub: Legal immigrants Quota Problem: Employment based EB2, EB3
Dear XXXX,
This is to once again thank you for your continuous efforts in making things move in the legal immigration front.
We would request you to bring HR 5882 to the table and hence help people waiting for so long get immediate relief. We think this is the best time to do it as there are so many waiting in long queues for so long and are unable to buy houses though they are at rock bottom prices now, or change companies as some of us would also like to, and start new companies and jobs. There are very much needed in this time of economic crisis. Applicants in EB3 and EB2 Employment based greencard category are severly backlogged.
The problem is mainly due to country based quotas and wastage of many greencards due to administrative delays over the years, as you know. This can easily be fixed with a simple administrative action and need not need to be done as part of the bigger comprehensive immigration bill. We too need a change.
Below are some statistics and details of the problem, just in case you missed a point.
1. High technology H1-B visas allowed into US = 85,000 H1B per year.
2. H1B quota limit per country = None, quota limits.
3. Greencard eligible candidates = All H1B holders
4. Total Employment Greencards = 145,000 per year.
5. Quota limits for greencards = 7% per country and each family member is counted as 1 visa.
6. H1 holders from India = 30,000 to 40,000 per year.
7. Greencards available for India by quota limits = 2000 � 3000 per year.
8. People waiting in Queues = 37,000 � 38,000 per year.
9. Estimated wait = 10- 15 years per life.
10. Estimated loss of productivity = unlimited.
11. Loss of health and health related issues due to these worries = incalculable.
Consequences:
1. EB3 Employment based category from India is severely backlogged,
2. Number of applicants in Queues waiting to buy house = 300,000
3. Number of applicants in Queues buying a house now = 0.
4. Money spent by applicants on rent per year = $6 billion
5. Number of applicants having Citizen children born in US = 80%
6. Number of applicants unable to start own companies(as they are tied to employer all the time due to greencard sponsorship)
= 30-40%
7. Applicants disappointed and leaving US = 10-15%
8. Applicants planning to come back after retirement who take with them US Citizens who will sponsor them = everybody who is leaving US right now with Citizen kids
9. Burden on social security and healthcare by applicants in point 7 = billions of dollars.
10. Severe pain for everyone wasting time on worries and uncertainity.
11. Many people thinking of returning back, very disappointed.
Solution
Please provide immediate relief. We are still holding our bags in hands even after 5-10 years of playing it by law after applying for greencards. Please respect liberty and freedom and let that happen to legal applicants.
1. Please remove country quotas for greencards immediately to make waiting less for legal employer based EB2/EB3 applicants from India in long queues ALREADY in US for years.
2. This needs No new jobs or Visas. It�s just a simple fix to help bring joy to some legal immigrants and give them freedom to contribute more.
3. Please provide greencards for any legal employment based applicant who lived in US for atleast 5 years and is waiting for more than 5 years and paid taxes and live like a good American Citizen.
4. Please provide Citizenship for anyone who lived in US for 10 years and played by the rules all the time and paid taxes.
5. This will help people buy houses that are so cheap now which will pump in $40 billion even if 50% people buy houses.
6. Construction jobs increase as people start buying houses.
7. Manufacturing and auto industry improves as people start buying cars again due to renewed confidence. Else they continue to adjust with their old cars for now.
8. A fee of $1000-$3000 can be applied for premium processing which can generate $1.5 billion instantly.
9. Stop the distribution of 50000 diversity greencards lottery per year immediately. This is bad in the current times, when people are waiting in legal queues for ever.
10. Issue greencards immediately to anyone who did PhD in US and to Masters Students.. They will be more productive if you help here.
11. Please don�t wait for CIR to have these. This is a small admin fix, no new visas or jobs.
Please let us feel respected for playing by the rules. It will come back to the American people in full gratitude in the form of jobs and renewed vigor.
WE TOO NEED A CHANGE NOW.
A positive action in this regard will be very highly appreciated.
God Bless America!
Thank you very much for your kind attention,
XXXXX,
Category : Employment based EB3 greencard category from India.
Priority Date : xx/xx/xxxx
To President its on change.gov site under Agenda-->Immigration.
Zoe' Lofgren's addresses are:
Priority Date : xx/xx/xxxx
District Office
635 North 1st Street, Suite B
San Jose, CA 95112
Telephone (408) 271-8700
Washington, D.C. Office
102 Cannon HOB
Washington, D.C. 20515
Telephone (202) 225-3072
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gondalguru
07-20 11:53 AM
So maybe the H-1B provision killed it??
.
Thats what I think.
Any amendments that contain provisions to increase H1b quota will have very tough time to get through.
.
Thats what I think.
Any amendments that contain provisions to increase H1b quota will have very tough time to get through.
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07-14 03:19 PM
To: IV
Amount: $ 10.00
Payment Date: July 15, 2008
Reference Number: 10011
Amount: $ 10.00
Payment Date: July 15, 2008
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08-13 03:58 PM
We can write letters, emails, fax, contribute to IV but nothing is gonna help. This is the fact!
Yes. It may help, but EB3 is not the one who is going to get any piece out of it, as EB2 is increasing in huge amount. Even if it is CURRENT for 10 years, thats not going to help anyone below that level as everyone will qualify for EB2 in future, almost all the future candidates will have minimum of 5 years experience.
1. Live with this. Don't come to any forum, don't think about VISA bulletin. Take your Gc when it comes to your doorstep. May be by then, we may not need it. We may be tired of being on the same job and GC may not bring any
motivation to our career.
Well, if one decided to continue the process of waiting, there won't be any career to talk about at the end.
2. Move over to EB2 - If possible, take all the pains of changing job, place of living, unpredictability in PERM queue and I140 queue and move over to EB2. But you never know. One of our Indian brothers might have just won a lawsuit to stop us from moving over!! In that sense, EB3 I is worst than illegals. Least wanted legals in the USA!!
Not possible for all to go to EB2 as most of the companies hesitate to spend huge amount again and same is applicable to the individual too. It may not be worth at the end to spend another 5K on this. Well said, we should then fight with our own friends (because they may not like us to get the Lion's share) before going to DOS and USCIS.
3. Get out of this country - Give up the American dream and come to reality and start a new dream. May be Canadian dream or Australian dream...
I am waking up from 'abroad' dream. The real dream in front is "Home", without any issue that works for me.
Yes. It may help, but EB3 is not the one who is going to get any piece out of it, as EB2 is increasing in huge amount. Even if it is CURRENT for 10 years, thats not going to help anyone below that level as everyone will qualify for EB2 in future, almost all the future candidates will have minimum of 5 years experience.
1. Live with this. Don't come to any forum, don't think about VISA bulletin. Take your Gc when it comes to your doorstep. May be by then, we may not need it. We may be tired of being on the same job and GC may not bring any
motivation to our career.
Well, if one decided to continue the process of waiting, there won't be any career to talk about at the end.
2. Move over to EB2 - If possible, take all the pains of changing job, place of living, unpredictability in PERM queue and I140 queue and move over to EB2. But you never know. One of our Indian brothers might have just won a lawsuit to stop us from moving over!! In that sense, EB3 I is worst than illegals. Least wanted legals in the USA!!
Not possible for all to go to EB2 as most of the companies hesitate to spend huge amount again and same is applicable to the individual too. It may not be worth at the end to spend another 5K on this. Well said, we should then fight with our own friends (because they may not like us to get the Lion's share) before going to DOS and USCIS.
3. Get out of this country - Give up the American dream and come to reality and start a new dream. May be Canadian dream or Australian dream...
I am waking up from 'abroad' dream. The real dream in front is "Home", without any issue that works for me.
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db12320
03-30 06:04 PM
here is the IRS link which says all non resident aliens will not receive the check, irrespective if they have a SSN or not. Last I knew every H1 is a non-resident alien.
http://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/0,,id=179181,00.html
Snippet from the site:-
Q: I know some people won�t get a stimulus payment. How do I know if I�m one of them?
A: You won�t get a stimulus payment in 2008, if any of the following apply to you:
*
You don�t file a 2007 tax return.
*
Your net income tax liability is zero and your qualifying income is less than $3,000. To determine your qualifying income, add together your wages, net self-employment income, nontaxable combat pay, Social Security benefits, certain Railroad Retirement benefits and certain veterans� payments.
*
You can be claimed as a dependent on someone else�s return. For example, this would include a child or student who can be claimed on a parent�s return.
*
You do not have a valid Social Security Number.
*
You are a nonresident alien.
*
You file Form 1040NR or Form 1040NR-EZ, Form 1040PR or Form 1040SS for 2007.
http://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/0,,id=179181,00.html
Snippet from the site:-
Q: I know some people won�t get a stimulus payment. How do I know if I�m one of them?
A: You won�t get a stimulus payment in 2008, if any of the following apply to you:
*
You don�t file a 2007 tax return.
*
Your net income tax liability is zero and your qualifying income is less than $3,000. To determine your qualifying income, add together your wages, net self-employment income, nontaxable combat pay, Social Security benefits, certain Railroad Retirement benefits and certain veterans� payments.
*
You can be claimed as a dependent on someone else�s return. For example, this would include a child or student who can be claimed on a parent�s return.
*
You do not have a valid Social Security Number.
*
You are a nonresident alien.
*
You file Form 1040NR or Form 1040NR-EZ, Form 1040PR or Form 1040SS for 2007.
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I think there are many ways to look at it. Doing Free service , yes it is a form of Gandhigiri, but will that cause the lawmakers to recognize us and pass laws in favor o fus..I do not think so.
I think our situation is no different than people in South Africa in Gandhian times. How Gandhi fought for them is by writing and writing and pestering the Authorities to reduce unfair taxes on Indians in SA and to solve other problems they had like cannot ride in the same Trains/cars as Whites etc...., fighting for their rights in a Vocal but Non Voilent - non aggressive approach.
We, in this post , have equated Gandhigiri with - divide ur attention - Go Do MBA- be occupied with something else while u are retrogressed, furthur ur career/skills,,,etc I do not think that is what Gandhigiri is about i.e. doing something for the self, but instead do it for the community. In this case IV is our community and its leaders are doing the right thing for our cause and if we continue to support that by adding members, funds we will do a fair bit of gandhigiri towards our cause.
I think our situation is no different than people in South Africa in Gandhian times. How Gandhi fought for them is by writing and writing and pestering the Authorities to reduce unfair taxes on Indians in SA and to solve other problems they had like cannot ride in the same Trains/cars as Whites etc...., fighting for their rights in a Vocal but Non Voilent - non aggressive approach.
We, in this post , have equated Gandhigiri with - divide ur attention - Go Do MBA- be occupied with something else while u are retrogressed, furthur ur career/skills,,,etc I do not think that is what Gandhigiri is about i.e. doing something for the self, but instead do it for the community. In this case IV is our community and its leaders are doing the right thing for our cause and if we continue to support that by adding members, funds we will do a fair bit of gandhigiri towards our cause.
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07-20 08:54 AM
Clinton - Nay
i guess after the money she got from the iit alumni she decided it was enuff support for this time
what r u guys in california doing?
boxer- nay
feinstein- nay
flood them with calls people
at least my senators down south voted - yea!
i guess after the money she got from the iit alumni she decided it was enuff support for this time
what r u guys in california doing?
boxer- nay
feinstein- nay
flood them with calls people
at least my senators down south voted - yea!
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JazzByTheBay
09-10 09:01 PM
Then there's no point in being a member of IV.
When we've come together in an organized fashion, things have happened - although not as frequently and not to the exact extent that we've wanted.
If you believe nothing will change - perhaps it's time to move on and stop logging on to IV forums and worrying yourself silly about this.
If inaction and giving up is part of your nature, there's little help outside of therapy - no offense meant.
If we can continue to organize and keep working towards the goals, perhaps some headway can be made. Those who spearheaded such efforts knew it wasn't a sprint to the finish.
Question is...how much pushing would be needed when v very well know that whatever noise v make is never to be heard ???
When we've come together in an organized fashion, things have happened - although not as frequently and not to the exact extent that we've wanted.
If you believe nothing will change - perhaps it's time to move on and stop logging on to IV forums and worrying yourself silly about this.
If inaction and giving up is part of your nature, there's little help outside of therapy - no offense meant.
If we can continue to organize and keep working towards the goals, perhaps some headway can be made. Those who spearheaded such efforts knew it wasn't a sprint to the finish.
Question is...how much pushing would be needed when v very well know that whatever noise v make is never to be heard ???
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01-06 04:58 PM
The video is obviously edited, so it is hard to put some of the statements into context without access to the entire transcript. (In any case, we cannot see what charts he is referring to)
Anyway: Regarding the point that it is relatively easy to find skilled people here than in India, I tend to agree. However, the reason is that the most skilled graduates from India (and China) do not stick around for long there, and are actually to be found here! Without checking the raw data it is impossible to comment on Mr Wadhwa's assertion regarding ease of filling positions in US vs India/China. (For instance, does his data on US companies include positions (in US) filled by immigrants or does it include only positions filled by US born citizens?)
Getting to where he is amazed that R&D is done in India & China, I'm not sure why that is surprising, and indeed, why should it even contradict his assertion that the vast majority of Indian/Chinese graduates are appalling. I'm not commenting on whether that assertion is true or not. I do not know, but, even granting it is true, it is important to remember that a minority of a large population might be as big, or bigger than the majority of a small population. (Remember, you have to exclude all foreign students from US universities and only include US born citizens in the population of American engineers. Why? Because all foreign students would need H1 to work here, just the same as a student in a Indian/Chinese university. To avoid 'double counting' basically) So how do we compare apples to apples? How do we compare "number of good engineers in US" vs "number of good engineers in China/India"? It is very hard to do that via a survey, if not impossible. The best survey is observing the "invisible hand" of the market: If good research is done in India/China, while simultaneously, immigrants from there have a had a huge role to play in Silicon Valley's success, that tells you something, does it not?
Anyway: Regarding the point that it is relatively easy to find skilled people here than in India, I tend to agree. However, the reason is that the most skilled graduates from India (and China) do not stick around for long there, and are actually to be found here! Without checking the raw data it is impossible to comment on Mr Wadhwa's assertion regarding ease of filling positions in US vs India/China. (For instance, does his data on US companies include positions (in US) filled by immigrants or does it include only positions filled by US born citizens?)
Getting to where he is amazed that R&D is done in India & China, I'm not sure why that is surprising, and indeed, why should it even contradict his assertion that the vast majority of Indian/Chinese graduates are appalling. I'm not commenting on whether that assertion is true or not. I do not know, but, even granting it is true, it is important to remember that a minority of a large population might be as big, or bigger than the majority of a small population. (Remember, you have to exclude all foreign students from US universities and only include US born citizens in the population of American engineers. Why? Because all foreign students would need H1 to work here, just the same as a student in a Indian/Chinese university. To avoid 'double counting' basically) So how do we compare apples to apples? How do we compare "number of good engineers in US" vs "number of good engineers in China/India"? It is very hard to do that via a survey, if not impossible. The best survey is observing the "invisible hand" of the market: If good research is done in India/China, while simultaneously, immigrants from there have a had a huge role to play in Silicon Valley's success, that tells you something, does it not?
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Marphad
07-06 03:28 PM
ban this guy/girl.....
This type of language is not acceptable at all. He is new Sanju (and he was..... no comments ;)).
This type of language is not acceptable at all. He is new Sanju (and he was..... no comments ;)).
petepatel
09-12 03:50 PM
I m in :)
pani_6
01-03 02:54 PM
I am going back in a few years!..this in Bhoga Bhumi(Land of material pleasures)...my land Bharath is Punya Bhommi(Land of Good Karma).I am heading home no matter what!
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